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Music / Spirituality
Posted on January 10, 2017

Music was always a big part of spirituality, even from ancient times, when we did not have the technology to tune it as we do today. In an astral experience recently (December 2016), I began to question the value of music as to if it was a fraudulent method of spirituality.

 

In the experience, I was with a friend whom I knew when my body was in its teens. We were on the astral veranda of his parents’ astral residence which they are maintaining on the astral side. They are deceased. Even though it was not physical reality there, everything was like in the physical word, with him and myself being on a veranda which was near the kitchen, where his mother cooked astral bread at that place. She was invisible however. Her astral form was in a different frequency to ours but we knew from psychic sensing that she was there, preparing this bread for us.

 

Across the way there was a church where people sang melodiously about Christmas. The friend and I were looking on, listening. Each person in the church sang along to the organ music which to their minds was the most melodious sounds heard anywhere. Each person in that church was lifted in spirits singing those hymns.

 

It was then that I began to wonder about the value of religious music. The following questions arose in my mind:

 

Are these persons making spiritual advancement by the influence of the organ music and the singing of the choir?

 

Will that singing result in translation to a heavenly place now or hereafter?

 

Do unwanted habits move out of their lives as a result of singing hymns?

 

 

Is there an increase psychic perception as a result?

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Re: Music / Spirituality
Reply #1 Posted on January 11, 2017
So what's the verdict? No?
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Reply #2 Posted on January 11, 2017

Funny when the students are supposed to answer a question and instead they ask the teacher for the answer.

 

What sort of exam is it when the teacher writes in the answers for the students?

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Reply #3 Posted on January 12, 2017

Music generally speaking is essential to the spiritual and religious experiences. In that sense which is solicited from external stimuli, other means of exciting the senses are also valid and can greatly increase such experiences.

 

Music stimulates the sense of hearing through sound vibrations and is therefore more subtle and finer. That makes it more accessible in general because it relies on air molecules which are everywhere present to transmit; it then depends on touch of the ear drums.

 

A sense like taste participates in these same experiences when for example a dish has been prepared by one who possesses the gift or better said a siddhi. In such context a meal has been assessed to provide pleasure only describable in comparison to sex, another externally processed experience (yet originating in the subtle).

 

Touch and smell are more difficult to isolate in their participation but they too can contribute to feelings of wellness and even therapy. There exists traditional and alternative medicine based on all the senses.  

 

Music will always be just music and remain a lofty part of human experience; it can easily and immediately provide exhilaration and joy as well as therapy in the form relaxation and inspirations.

 

On the other hand, religious experience always relies on external objects and their interceding, through to the divine. Religious practices or experience normally are infused with traditional habits of summoning the divine for attributes such as health, wealth, etc. Such practices may also include the use of the nature’s elements (of earth, water, wind and fire) to support and reinforce the religious claims or demands.

 

And, spirituality increasingly includes the new terminology of yoga as well as formats of Buddhism are being defined to mean a positive state of mind or being, and not necessarily and systematically a lifestyle. That is a demarcation from the religious life as a display of communal aspirations to the afterlife.

 

Neo-spirituality is the integration of said attributes into one’s life by means of personal practice, such as use of sensory therapy to enhance health or sense of happiness. Religiosity would then be the communal summoning of such attributes through a clergy and its affiliated supernatural figurehead by use of material means.

 

Individual religious practitioners who can rely solely on the analytical faculty or literal appreciation of their doctrine of the divine do not need the sensory input for satisfaction, but they are rare and are able to dedicate more time to their practice or religious observation. They may still commune with others of their faith by dint of rituals and ceremonies.

 

However, when the practitioners’ vibrational energy has been positioned so as to directly elevate the level of perception, the participation of different senses is accessed intra-dimensionally, and not from this material dimension that is external to the spirit of the worshiper.

 

In such cases external stimulation serves as a disturbance to the inner experience. And it can be very challenging for the intellect to reproduce those supra-natural sensations or experiences through gross senses or means.

 

This can be difficult question to answer; the gross appreciation is sourced in a subtle need for enjoyment and will be still be felt beyond death, without a gross body. And, higher level of existence or environments display increasing subtler mediums and objects of enjoyment.

 

There can be a channeling of the harnessed effects of the sensory stimulation like melody and lyrics, when they denote devotion and the worshiper is able to access the existential bandwidth of their deity (ies).

 

In such cases, there is transcendence of the external human experience because the devotee has presumably gotten in touch with the environment of their object of worship. This is similar to the manifestation of the variegated states of trance depicted in different esoteric sub-cultures.

 

Anecdotally, when I lived in Chicago in the late 90’s I would attend a tiny and humbling church in an abandoned house in the South side of town. It was clear across town from the Hare Krishna Temple almost in front of which I was renting an apartment. The priestess, mother Troy as we called her would play the organ after her sermon.

 

During the following litany she and her most advanced and very astute disciple brother Zain would lead the congregation of less than 10, in speaking in tongues. The following half hour would suddenly combust into a feverish pitch confused in an array of physical exclamations and exertion from babbling and stammering hysterically.

 

Once the energy and amalgamated emotions that were practically palpable would simmer down, the disciples described their experiences. Brother Zain who was about high school age, in particular would always describe a union with Lord J. Christ and mother Toy herself would be also in his description normally wearing a white dress, and astrally positioned to the right side of the Lord.   

 

Considering the degree of fervency these practitioners appeared to exhibit, it is reasonable to assume that they will in the hereafter coalesce around their practice as they did on this experiential side. And they will access the same means of sensory perception along with the corresponding subtle objects, mediums and craft they have had previously co-created or contributed to.   

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Re: Music / Spirituality
Reply #4 Posted on January 13, 2017

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  • Marilyn Weyher Great post, Michael. I ponder the effects of the vibrational energy of singing and/or chanting with very similar questions. Your writing makes me think about chanting aum and feeling the vibrations within my body and I believe in the potential of the energies of singing and chanting to affect what you ask about in your questions. Thank you for sharing.

  • Frits de Vries

    Frits de Vries Hearing is associated with aether. I experienced especially the organ in a church as an aether representation. Bach or less known composers and organists apparently knew how to relay an universal message through their organ music. It raised my Kundalini a couple of times especially during a finale.

  • Tuula Biamont

    Tuula Biamont About the questions in the end of your post: I believe that people on astral plane are content with their situation and not interested in developing. They are in their "heaven" and content with that. Just like so many people here on Earth are content with their earthly "home". But I don't know, when the urge to develop comes, maybe it will come little by little? Time does not exist, so this can take a very long "time" to many astral beeings, I guess...

  • Michael Beloved

    Michael Beloved Tuula,
    Your remark quoted below is profound:

    people on astral plane are content with their situation and not interested in developing. They are in their "heaven" and content with that. Just like so many people here on Earth are content with their earthly "home"

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